BlipBlop's TTT Appeal

[BlipBlop]

Server: TTT

SteamID: 76561198021743420

Reason for ban: harassment/doxing???

Issuing staff member: Dr. Zoidberg

Ban length: Permanent

 

Appeal:

 

Honestly getting sick of this... a certain Staff member jumping to conclusions.


There was a girl a few weeks ago who joined the server named "MichelleOkyo" - Ingame name https://steamcommunity.com/id/MichelleOkyo - She even advertised her stream on the server @ 

Yesterday i made a joke asking her friend (edgyguy24) if she got my email - Because we had an "argument" if u want to call it that, the day before about centrelink lmao

Predzee said "you got unbanned and doxing people already?" - I said No, her name is literally her steam and twitch username (mind u at this point i didnt say her last name)

Her friend (edgyguy24) said like 2 seconds later "bro thats just a meme, her names not actually okyo - Its all just a joke so people search her name on google and can see her fake facebook account etc"

Not sure where harassing comes from???????

No other info was shared 
PS. Not sure if DZB was the one who banned me (i just assume it was him), but he seems to have a grudge against me, after falsely banning me ingame last time
PSS. Not sure if you're even talking about that, if not then i got no idea, and you need to be more specific in ban reason

 

Edited July 14, 2019 by BlipBlop

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Fun Fact, I didn't ban you this was Bocaj.

 

1 hour ago, BlipBlop said:

Honestly getting sick of this... a certain Staff member jumping to conclusions.

Please next time actually check your facts or ask before you accuse someone of something. As I don't appreciate being accused of shit I haven't done. If I've done it I'll own it. In this case I cannot own it because I haven't done it

 

1 hour ago, BlipBlop said:

PS. Not sure if DZB was the one who banned me (i just assume it was him), but he seems to have a grudge against me, after falsely banning me ingame last time
PSS. Not sure if you're even talking about that, if not then i got no idea, and you need to be more specific in ban reason

As for your previous ban I did it because I was told to by a higher up. As for this ban, I don't know too much but from my understanding Michelle, reported you and Bocaj Dealt with it.

Ohh and as for people calling you Ben, your discord name was Ben, it was made Public information to the community, if it wasn't Ben and it wasn't public information then it would be a dox technically yes. 

@BocajYour turn

[Edgyguy24]

Okay so to give this some context because i've been named dropped let me just say this. 

The Centrelink argument got you removed from her discord for being racist. I don't know whether that upset you or whatever?  POST that you haven't said anything to me until yesterday when you were on Garry's Mod. Considering you don't have a mic and i think I might have missed some extra chat logs of you calling her a Catfish and some other stuff. Here is the logs that I have saved in text format (didn't bother to screenshot at the time as i didn't think it would escalate like this.)

(sending in image format as it doesnt come out correctly on here.)

In that said email you sent her some further derogatory comments and leaked an old address of hers. I think the worst bit about the entire thing is you still think this certain instance is a staff member trying to persecute you rather then fully understanding and admitting that opening emails sending someone there own personal information can cause distress and is harassment.  As seen when you are playing dumb in the DM's.


Also funny here when you inadvertently admit to the harassing email bit but deny doxing accusations by saying it was a random guess???




Considering I don't have any personal issues with you and I do consider you a cool guy for the most part, I really hope in future you see how problematic this kind of behaviour is and fix it rather then blaming other people. As for the permanent ban if it were this one instant i'd plead your case and say that it's unfair. However this isn't your first rodeo so I can't even say that. 

As a final note, hope for the best and you adjust your behaviour because as I said for the most part you are a cool dude. 

[-Predzee-]

I have in-game screenshots displaying 'some' chat-logs in Edgyguy24's image, verifying them. In addition to this, I recollect Blip Bl0p  referring to her by her first name in text-chat. https://ibb.co/FHJsJRX ; https://ibb.co/drGx4SM
 

Edited July 14, 2019 by -Predzee-

[Bocaj]

Okay so let me explain the situation to you BlipBlop,

Last night I was contacted on Discord by the victim who was upset and angry that you were sharing her personal information on the server and going out of your way to contact her through her personal email.  She provided screenshots of the chat logs on the server and the email you sent. As shown above, Edgy and Predzee were witnesses to this and have provided evidence to back this up. You DID NOT have her permission to post any of her information on the server for the other users to see. 

We DO NOT tolerate this kind of behavior, as stated in our rules:  "4. Do not post or threaten to post anyone's personal information unless you have their permission to do so.. excluding personal information that the owner of the information have already posted some where on fluxservers."

I banned you for "Harassment And Sharing Other Player's Personal Information." The harassment refers to the email you sent. You sent an email to her personal account which included sensitive information including the name of the place where she grew up and used to live. This is absolutely unacceptable. If the roles were reversed and someone was sending you an email containing your information, you would be worried too. I have also been informed that you were verbally abusive towards her but I am yet to see any proof. I showed the evidence to other staff members and was told by a higher-up to proceed with the ban. 

The evidence that I have been provided with on discord and the evidence that is shown in this thread clearly show that you have broken our rules and you have been punished accordingly. 

[BlipBlop]

Hi Bocaj,

1 hour ago, Bocaj said:

We DO NOT tolerate this kind of behavior, as stated in our rules:  "4. Do not post or threaten to post anyone's personal information unless you have their permission to do so.. excluding personal information that the owner of the information have already posted some where on fluxservers."

I have not shared to the servers members any "personal private info" that she hasn't shared herself, as stated in OP, all the info i did post in server the other day was made publicly known when she joined the server with her steam username being "MichelleOkyo", i am not sure how this is posting/sharing personal information that wasn't available. I didn't post her email, I didnt post her address, I didnt post anything apart from her username. Sorry if it takes you a minute to realise  her first name "Michelle" is in that username

1 hour ago, Bocaj said:

I banned you for "Harassment And Sharing Other Player's Personal Information." The harassment refers to the email you sent. You sent an email to her personal account which included sensitive information including the name of the place where she grew up and used to live. This is absolutely unacceptable. If the roles were reversed and someone was sending you an email containing your information, you would be worried too. I have also been informed that you were verbally abusive towards her but I am yet to see any proof. I showed the evidence to other staff members and was told by a higher-up to proceed with the ban. 

I honestly wouldn't be too worried, I have a VPN running at all times, if someone did find where i live, i certainly would not accept it as a the place I live.. or i'd realise i need to fix something like a leak (not having your username the same as everything else would be a great start). But that aside..
 
I haven't been abusive to her, the worst was probably she called me Balding Ben, I and others in the discord called her something else. Not sure why she said that, yea i was racist in her chat, not sure what that has to do with flux though..

Noone else knew the contents of the email, including location, unless she decided to post that, then she's doxed her self.. I haven't accessed any info thats not already public on Google, and I certainly havent told anyone.

as for the reason behind the email, it was a meme, she called me a child/ "stop crying" etc  Then blocked me, I sent her an email titled 'adopt a child' or something similar. No malicious intent was intended, she doesnt have pizzas coming or anything lmao

[Dr. Zoidberg]

26 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

as for the reason behind the email, it was a meme

I mean, as for the "Meme" Mail, I am curios as to why you took the time, to create or generate a complete fake email etc, just to send an email to her.

26 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

I haven't been abusive to her, the worst was probably she called me Balding Ben

From What I know only Edgy Guy Has called you this, as well as doesn't matter what she has done still doesn't give the right to email them randomly. Also, from what I have been told you were banned from her discord for breaking it's rules, and you had some form of hissy fit which lead to this.

 

26 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

she called me a child/ "stop crying" etc 

Do you have an actual proof to this, and it occurring on flux? Because otherwise it is entirely irrelevant just like the amount of pigments that some fish can see (over like 1000) when they live in an ocean...

 

 This line here contradicts what you said in game, where you said "You sent her an email" After stating you didn't know if it was or not. You also asked "If she got it" not knowing if it was her email or not

 

These things confuse me, and no doubt may confuse others as you have stated so far

The Email is a "Meme"

You didn't know her "Email"

You wanted to know if she received the "Email"

My Question is, Why do all three of these things you have said not line up properly. From what I make of it,

You tried multiple different emails, to email someone for a meme and just assumed she got it and wanted to verify if you did, and you did all this with generated emails you created, just for this?

[Edgyguy24]

18 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

I haven't been abusive to her, the worst was probably she called me Balding Ben, I and others in the discord called her something else. Not sure why she said that, yea i was racist in her chat, not sure what that has to do with flux though..

You know there is proof of this. I don't know why you would even try to argue this. The email itself is a testament to that. Several people can testify to what you were saying in the server last night. 
 

18 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

I honestly wouldn't be too worried, I have a VPN running at all times, if someone did find where i live, i certainly would not accept it as a the place I live.. or i'd realise i need to fix something like a leak (not having your username the same as everything else would be a great start).

ITS YOUR FAULT FOR NOT PROTECTING YOURSELF Kappa. I seriously don't get that logic. 
 

22 minutes ago, BlipBlop said:

as for the reason behind the email, it was a meme, she called me a child/ "stop crying" etc  Then blocked me, I sent her an email titled 'adopt a child' or something similar. No malicious intent was intended, she doesnt have pizzas coming or anything lmao

This perfectly justify's snooping for her address, making a spam email account and sending it to her to intimidate her. 

Can we stop playing now and put down some genuine apps showing progress and admitting of wrong doings? 

 

[-Predzee-]

5 hours ago, BlipBlop said:

As for the reason behind the email, it was a meme, she called me a child/ "stop crying" etc  Then blocked me, I sent her an email titled 'adopt a child' or something similar. No malicious intent was intended, she doesnt have pizzas coming or anything lmao

The final paragraph in Blip Bl0p's response underlines his unprincipled attitude towards his ban, and his deficiency of remorse has lead me to suppose he will never accept the conditions of his ban and the relinquishing of his privileges will only lead to incessant rule-breaking in the future.

In other words: don't unban him and reap the benefits.

Edited July 14, 2019 by -Predzee-

[BlipBlop]

6 hours ago, Dr. Zoidberg said:

as for the "Meme" Mail, I am curios as to why you took the time, to create or generate a complete fake email etc, just to send an email to her.

Why would I use my personal email lol

they’re premade emails, they even add the senders (mine) IP to the subject.

6 hours ago, Dr. Zoidberg said:

From What I know only Edgy Guy Has called you this, as well as doesn't matter what she has done still doesn't give the right to email them randomly. Also, from what I have been told you were banned from her discord for breaking it's rules, and you had some form of hissy fit which lead to this

Edgy said it once, then she took it, and used it multiple times.

6 hours ago, Edgyguy24 said:

You know there is proof of this. I don't know why you would even try to argue this. The email itself is a testament to that. Several people can testify to what you were saying in the server last night. 
 

I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about lmao, I called her MichelleOkyo, u said Okyo was a joke last name in vc, I said “Michelle a catfish :o” meant to have a ? U asked if she was etc

6 hours ago, Dr. Zoidberg said:

Do you have an actual proof to this, and it occurring on flux? Because otherwise it is entirely irrelevant just like the amount of pigments that some fish can see (over like 1000) when they live in an ocean...

None of this occurred on Flux, apart from me asking if she received it, she doesn’t even play apart from the one time for a few hours,

as for how how I got her email, it’s literally the same as everything else, I didn’t know if she would actually get it,hence why I asked and wasn’t going to risk my personal email.

Why would I ask if she got it, if I 100% knew it WAS her email.

Edited July 14, 2019 by BlipBlop

[Menace]

I was not the staff member handling this so I only know whats been posted here.

Hello BlipBlop,

I don't understand why you think emailing a player with her person information wouldn't get you punished?

I understand that all you did was a bit of googling and using your brain. But sending her an email with her information, Taking the time to create a new email account just for that.

If all you did was get her information and kept it to yourself none of this would have happened.

 

In my opinion:  You tried to flex your hacker knowledge to get a reaction out of this girl and it back fired. 

 

 

 

[Aeyon]

the way i see it is that even if someone has any form of personal information that can be found by looking through profiles it doesn't mean that information is yours to throw around for your own entertainment. and just because you found information when YOU WENT LOOKING FOR IT doesn't mean you own the right to spread it as if it was your own.

 

I'm in the same boat as Menace i was not around or had any part in this ban just adding to this appeal based on what has been shown above.

and in my opinion i believe you should stay banned as a result of your actions both past and present. I suggest you learn from this and not see it as a joke or a meme because its clear that you have a problem and refuse to accept or make any change to better yourself.

[BlipBlop]

1 hour ago, Aeyon said:

and just because you found information when YOU WENT LOOKING FOR IT doesn't mean you own the right to spread it as if it was your own.

(This is just how I’m interpreting this quoted message) I just need to make it clear if there’s some confusion in people thinking I posted the emails contents in a public forum/chatroom/public in general, the contents of that email have NOT been posted/shared outside of the sent email between the owner of the information and I.

5 hours ago, Menace said:

f all you did was get her information and kept it to yourself none of this would have happened.

 

You are very right Menace.

heck even if I didn’t ask if she got it, it would never have been seen because it would have automatically been detected as spam and chucked to spam folder, and who checks their spam folder/ the contents of emails in spam folder.

 

Today I have been getting PMs on how I fucked up this time,

and I know I have, over what in my head was just a joke with no Ill intent, *ah she banned me, quick use this info* I wasnt mad at her or anything.. but I wasn’t thinking about how she  would see it from her end (maybe she moved for a similar reason for example)! 

 

~~will edit this when I get home, on bus and eating at time of writing~~

[accel.]

Nothing of what you just said really helps your case here. You originally chose to try and find her email by using common domain names, which in itself is a form of harassment and doxxing. You willingly sent her an email knowing rightfully so it was the wrong thing to do especially since you've some choice words within the email (again, harassment). You decided to cause a fuss over a simple discord server ban.

You have showed absolutely zero remorse or any sense of apology is found within your recent posts and as such your appeal has been denied.

You should really consider your actions and their outcomes.